Comments on: mike and jerry. http://unclecrappy.com/2009/07/07/mike-and-jerry/ awoke last night to the sound of the storm. Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:12:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Dawn http://unclecrappy.com/2009/07/07/mike-and-jerry/#comment-4684 Dawn Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:07:30 +0000 http://unclecrappy.com/?p=2232#comment-4684 All I can say is "thank you"... and I mean that sincerely. I mentioned on my running WWIII Facebook status Update Drama, that I knew more than one person that was hospitalized when Cobain died. I knew people that made themselves physically ill over Princess Di's death. I watched friends become frighteningly moved by the deaths of Biggie Smalls and Tupac. I never understood those reactions, but I knew enough to know that what those "Celebrities" had touched my friends and acquaintences in a way that changed their life. And I mean that profoundly. Michael Jackson changed my life profoundly, and my amazement at his dance and music abilities from the time I was in kindergarten began the shaping of my backlash at the communities I grew up in that were less than gracious about a person's skin color. I pushed boundaries because he was good... and I didn't understand why that was bad. I forced family members to reevaluate their own upbringings in order to answer me... and it happened time and time again when he faced media scrutiny over and over again, for various different reasons. To say he was a controversial touch point in my life is an understatment. I didn't sell all my belongings to go to the Staple Center, and I didn't stay home from work, but I listened to the service, and I was moved. I can agree that the constant Casket Watch was distateful. The remaining part of the service was beautiful, and poignant. People forget just how much he changed popular culture and how much he gave to humanitarian causes. I was glad his family and friends finally sang his praises for that because he never did himself. Angelina Jolie, he was not. Sorry this was so long, but thank you for seeing this from a perspective other than "It doesn't effect me, so the news must bend to my will, and people need to care about only what I care about." You really don't know how much that means to me. Dawn All I can say is “thank you”… and I mean that sincerely.

I mentioned on my running WWIII Facebook status Update Drama, that I knew more than one person that was hospitalized when Cobain died. I knew people that made themselves physically ill over Princess Di’s death. I watched friends become frighteningly moved by the deaths of Biggie Smalls and Tupac. I never understood those reactions, but I knew enough to know that what those “Celebrities” had touched my friends and acquaintences in a way that changed their life. And I mean that profoundly.

Michael Jackson changed my life profoundly, and my amazement at his dance and music abilities from the time I was in kindergarten began the shaping of my backlash at the communities I grew up in that were less than gracious about a person’s skin color. I pushed boundaries because he was good… and I didn’t understand why that was bad. I forced family members to reevaluate their own upbringings in order to answer me… and it happened time and time again when he faced media scrutiny over and over again, for various different reasons. To say he was a controversial touch point in my life is an understatment.

I didn’t sell all my belongings to go to the Staple Center, and I didn’t stay home from work, but I listened to the service, and I was moved. I can agree that the constant Casket Watch was distateful. The remaining part of the service was beautiful, and poignant. People forget just how much he changed popular culture and how much he gave to humanitarian causes. I was glad his family and friends finally sang his praises for that because he never did himself. Angelina Jolie, he was not.

Sorry this was so long, but thank you for seeing this from a perspective other than “It doesn’t effect me, so the news must bend to my will, and people need to care about only what I care about.” You really don’t know how much that means to me.

Dawn

]]> By: sickpuppy http://unclecrappy.com/2009/07/07/mike-and-jerry/#comment-4683 sickpuppy Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:16:48 +0000 http://unclecrappy.com/?p=2232#comment-4683 Well done post Crappy! As you know me I can be a cold hearted bastard at times but I respect other people's heartaches. I have never been one to idolize anyone as everyone is still just another person in my eyes. I just find it hard to understand how people can wrap their lives around celebrities simply because they are popular. Call me shallow, I just don't get it. Well done post Crappy! As you know me I can be a cold hearted bastard at times but I respect other people’s heartaches. I have never been one to idolize anyone as everyone is still just another person in my eyes. I just find it hard to understand how people can wrap their lives around celebrities simply because they are popular. Call me shallow, I just don’t get it.

]]> By: albamaria30 http://unclecrappy.com/2009/07/07/mike-and-jerry/#comment-4682 albamaria30 Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:35:41 +0000 http://unclecrappy.com/?p=2232#comment-4682 Well said. I barely touched the topic myself (brief mention today) because I didn't care all that much for his music ever. But I can see the point about being respectful of people's feelings, regardless how bizarre you think they might be. I was heartbroken when Kurt Cobain killed himself -- and angry. I hadn't seen Nirvana live, and I never will. When we went to my in-laws yesterday, Fox News was recapping the funeral, and MJ's daughter was sobbing on-screen. As I had the girls with me (and I found the coverage distasteful anyway), I quickly changed the channel. Monkey said, "Why was that little girl crying?" I answered, "Because her father died." And I left it at that. And that fact -- that a little girl lost her father -- is a sad fact. Oh, and I tagged you. ciao, rpm Well said. I barely touched the topic myself (brief mention today) because I didn’t care all that much for his music ever. But I can see the point about being respectful of people’s feelings, regardless how bizarre you think they might be. I was heartbroken when Kurt Cobain killed himself — and angry. I hadn’t seen Nirvana live, and I never will.

When we went to my in-laws yesterday, Fox News was recapping the funeral, and MJ’s daughter was sobbing on-screen. As I had the girls with me (and I found the coverage distasteful anyway), I quickly changed the channel. Monkey said, “Why was that little girl crying?” I answered, “Because her father died.”

And I left it at that. And that fact — that a little girl lost her father — is a sad fact.

Oh, and I tagged you.

ciao,
rpm

]]> By: bobbo http://unclecrappy.com/2009/07/07/mike-and-jerry/#comment-4681 bobbo Wed, 08 Jul 2009 04:13:23 +0000 http://unclecrappy.com/?p=2232#comment-4681 I'm not a Michael Jackson fan (and I was too young to know about this Jerry Garcia you speak of), and while I can understand and, in some ways, sympathize with the fans of these musicians — or any celebrity, really, my issue is with the coverage of Jackson's death. Yes, I get that people think he is a music icon, but I'm not sure we need to know where the casket is every second. But, that's how it goes. There's not too many "celebrity" types I'd truly mourn in the way many folks are mourning Michael Jackson. I’m not a Michael Jackson fan (and I was too young to know about this Jerry Garcia you speak of), and while I can understand and, in some ways, sympathize with the fans of these musicians — or any celebrity, really, my issue is with the coverage of Jackson’s death.

Yes, I get that people think he is a music icon, but I’m not sure we need to know where the casket is every second.

But, that’s how it goes. There’s not too many “celebrity” types I’d truly mourn in the way many folks are mourning Michael Jackson.

]]> By: The Sister http://unclecrappy.com/2009/07/07/mike-and-jerry/#comment-4680 The Sister Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:10:43 +0000 http://unclecrappy.com/?p=2232#comment-4680 Very moving big brother Very moving big brother

]]> By: Gina http://unclecrappy.com/2009/07/07/mike-and-jerry/#comment-4679 Gina Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:57:48 +0000 http://unclecrappy.com/?p=2232#comment-4679 You are absolutely right, but I will admit to talking about not quite getting it. I mean - I was sad about Jerry - very sad, and yet I find myself a little confused my the MJ reaction. I think mainly I am just so very tired to hearing about it day and night. I was definitely shocked, I feel bad for his family, I even got a little teary seeing clips of his daughter at the the service (I'm not dead inside), but the constant coverage actually takes away from it, to me. It's so exploitative and just seems "icky" to me. You are absolutely right, but I will admit to talking about not quite getting it. I mean – I was sad about Jerry – very sad, and yet I find myself a little confused my the MJ reaction.

I think mainly I am just so very tired to hearing about it day and night. I was definitely shocked, I feel bad for his family, I even got a little teary seeing clips of his daughter at the the service (I’m not dead inside), but the constant coverage actually takes away from it, to me. It’s so exploitative and just seems “icky” to me.

]]> By: Burgh Baby http://unclecrappy.com/2009/07/07/mike-and-jerry/#comment-4678 Burgh Baby Tue, 07 Jul 2009 23:28:49 +0000 http://unclecrappy.com/?p=2232#comment-4678 Dawn and I were talking about that very comment, and other deaths of people "unknown" came to mind. People like Princess Diana, Curt Cobain, Elvis, Ronald Reagan, Steve McNair, and many others floated through my consciousness, and I realized that each of those deaths effected some people in ways that I couldn't understand. That doesn't mean that the grief for those people wasn't real. It's not my place to judge anyone for feeling grief, so I'll stick to being respectful. It's the right thing to do. Dawn and I were talking about that very comment, and other deaths of people “unknown” came to mind. People like Princess Diana, Curt Cobain, Elvis, Ronald Reagan, Steve McNair, and many others floated through my consciousness, and I realized that each of those deaths effected some people in ways that I couldn’t understand. That doesn’t mean that the grief for those people wasn’t real. It’s not my place to judge anyone for feeling grief, so I’ll stick to being respectful. It’s the right thing to do.

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